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Lou Douses an Old Flame 

Lou runs into a woman who sent him a "Dear John" letter during World War II.


Jay Sandrich


James L. Brooks (created by), Allan Burns (created by) | 1 more credit »


Episode cast overview:
Mary Tyler Moore ... Mary Richards
Edward Asner ... Lou Grant
Gavin MacLeod ... Murray Slaughter
Ted Knight ... Ted Baxter
Georgia Engel ... Georgette Baxter
Betty White ... Sue Ann Nivens
Beverly Garland ... Veronica Ludlow




Mary takes a telephone message for Lou from a woman named Veronica Ludlow, who doesn't mention the nature of her call. Lou reacts poorly to the fact of the telephone call. He later unburdens himself to Mary about his reaction. Veronica Ludlow was the major love of his life thirty years ago. On the eve of going into battle during WWII, Veronica sent a Lou a rather uncaring Dear John letter. The past thirty years have not healed the wounds opened by Veronica's letter. She called because she wants to have dinner with him. Mary tries to persuade him to see her and face his old demons, she believing that Lou's feelings really are tipping more on the side of love than hate. Lou does decide to see Veronica. Will Mary be right? Meanwhile, Ted, feeling jealous that Mary threw Georgette a belated bridal shower, wants her to throw him a bachelor party. Written by Huggo

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Due to Mary Tyler Moore having a flare-up of her diabetes, during a good portion of filming the The Mary Tyler Moore Show (1970)), Mary Tyler Moore, she was left weak and drained - with some weeks being 'better' (less incapacitating) than others. During the times Ms Moore wasn't feeling terrific, efforts were made to make her workload easier; one way this was accomplished was to lessen the amount of time she needed to be in makeup and hair, by having her wear a wig. Although this was kept quiet, the wig Ms Moore wore (as seen in this episode), wasn't very similair to Mary's usual hair style; a variation on a simple, side-parted hair style. Her eyes were also extremely sensitive at this time, and in several episodes, Ms Moore couldn't wear the false eyelashes (most actresses wear). See more »


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Thirty Years of Pain
25 February 2017 | by HitchcocSee all my reviews

There are two plot elements here. The first one involves Ted insisting that he be given a bachelor party. He's already married but that doesn't stop him from whining and complaining until Mary relents. Once again, they are at her apartment. Su Ann is at her worst. Lou is upset because a woman who sent him a Dear John letter during World War II wants to see him. She broke his heart and even sold his engagement ring to go on a honeymoon with another guy. He starts off by not wanting to go, but Mary tells him that it's been a long time and to accept the adventure. After much cajoling in Mary's bedroom, Lou heads off for a restaurant where she is, with striking results.

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15 November 1975 (USA) See more »

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